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Cashback on Losing Trades: Do You Still Get Forex Rebates?

Yes. Forex cashback is based on the volume (lots) you trade, not on profit or loss, so a losing trade earns the same per-lot cashback as a winning one; CB-Dogs pays 60% of the IB commission the broker actually pays for your account.

By CB-Dogs Editorial6 min read

Disclosure: CB-Dogs receives an advertising (referral) fee — sometimes called an IB commission — from brokers for accounts opened or linked through us, and returns part of it to you as cashback, the same model used by cashback and points sites. This does not change your trading costs.

On this page
  1. The short answer: volume, not outcome
  2. Why losing trades still earn cashback
  3. What CB-Dogs actually pays
  4. Exceptions to check
  5. A sobering example (hypothetical numbers)
  6. How to check that your losing trades were counted
  7. Frequently asked questions
  8. Next steps

A common worry before signing up for forex cashback is simple: "If I lose money on a trade, do I still get anything back?" The short answer is yes. Cashback follows the volume you trade, not the result of the trade. This article explains why that is, which exceptions are worth checking, and why a rebate is a cost reducer, not a loss absorber.

Key takeaways

  • Forex cashback is calculated on closed lot volume, not on profit or loss, so a losing trade earns the same per-lot cashback as a winning trade of the same size.
  • The reason is where the money comes from: the broker pays the IB commission out of the spread or commission you pay on every trade, win or lose.
  • CB-Dogs pays 60% of the IB commission the broker actually pays for your account, so cashback only exists for volume the broker counts and pays on.
  • Check the exceptions: trades the broker excludes from IB commission, very short holding times where a broker has such a rule, and hedged volume that nets out to little real exposure.
  • Cashback reduces what trading costs you. It does not turn a losing strategy into a profitable one.

The short answer: volume, not outcome

When you trade through a cashback provider's IB link, the broker pays the provider an introducing-broker (IB) commission for the trading activity on your account. That commission is based on how much you trade, usually measured in lots, and not on whether the position ended in profit. The provider then returns a share to you.

So the logic is the same on every closed trade:

  • Close 1 lot at a profit: you earn the per-lot cashback for 1 lot.
  • Close 1 lot at a loss: you earn the same per-lot cashback for 1 lot.
  • Close 1 lot at break-even: same again.

This matches what we explain in how forex rebates work and in the beginner forex rebates FAQ. If you want the numbers for your own volume, use the cashback calculator.

Three closed trades of 1 lot each, one winning, one losing and one break-even, all producing the same per-lot cashback
The cashback box is identical for all three trades because it depends on lots traded, not on the result.

Why losing trades still earn cashback

A broker earns money from your trading in two main ways: the spread (the gap between the buy and sell price) and, on some account types, a commission per lot. You pay that cost when you open and close a position, regardless of where the market goes afterwards. Our guide on how forex brokers make money covers this in detail.

The IB commission is carved out of that revenue. The broker has already earned its fee by the time the trade closes, so it can pay the IB a share whether you won or lost. Because the cost is incurred on volume, the rebate is calculated on volume. There is no profit-sharing component and no clawback when a trade loses.

The reverse is also true: a profitable trade does not earn extra cashback. A 1-lot winner and a 1-lot loser produce the same amount.

What CB-Dogs actually pays

CB-Dogs pays 60% of the IB commission that the broker actually pays for your account. Two consequences follow:

  1. Cashback depends on what the broker pays. If the broker does not pay IB commission on a particular trade, there is nothing to share on that trade.
  2. Per-lot amounts differ by broker and account type. The current figures are below and always come from the live rate data, so they are never typed into an article.

For XMTrading, the rates by account type are:

Account typeRebate / lot (USDT)
StandardSpread-based account, no commission.9.0
MicroRebate is calculated per 100,000 units of micro-lot volume (i.e. the same per-lot rate as Standard, scaled to micro-lot size).9.0
KiwamiXM's tightened-spread account tier available in select regions.6.0
ZeroCommission-based account. Rebate is paid in addition to the raw spread — commission you pay is unaffected.4.5

Provisional rate

For Exness, per-lot IB commission varies with the instrument, spread and partner level, so the figures below are estimates. The actual cashback is always the actual commission received multiplied by 60%.

Account typeRebate / lot (USDT)
StandardNo separate commission — Exness pays partners a share of the spread. The estimate below is for EURUSD at our current partner rank; GBPUSD and gold (XAUUSD) typically pay more per lot, tighter-spread pairs less. Rates rise automatically as our trading volume with Exness grows.0.96
ProNo separate commission — Exness pays partners a share of the spread, at a lower percentage than Standard. We don't yet have a reliable per-instrument estimate for this account type, so no figure is shown; your cashback is still 60% of the actual commission Exness pays us.0.0
ZeroCommission-based account with near-zero raw spreads. The estimate below is for EURUSD at our current partner rank; other instruments vary. Cashback is paid in addition to the raw spread and does not affect the commission you pay Exness.0.25
Raw SpreadCommission-based account with raw interbank spreads. Exness pays partners a fixed amount per lot that varies by instrument; we don't yet have a reliable figure to show, so no estimate is listed — your cashback is still 60% of the actual commission Exness pays us.0.0

Provisional rate

Exceptions to check

Winning or losing does not matter, but several other things can. These are worth checking before you assume every lot counts.

Trades the broker excludes from IB commission

Brokers set their own rules on which trades generate IB commission. If a trade is excluded, it produces no commission and therefore no cashback, no matter what the result was. Read the broker's terms for the account types you plan to use, and compare your trade history against your cashback statement. Our guide on verifying your rebate volume from trade history shows how.

Very short holding times

Some brokers apply a minimum holding time: a position closed faster than a stated threshold does not count toward IB commission. The rule exists to filter out near-instant open-and-close patterns, and it applies to winners and losers alike. Thresholds differ between brokers and are set by each broker, so check the current rule rather than relying on a number you saw elsewhere. We cover this in forex rebates for scalpers.

Hedged volume

A hedge held for a normal duration usually qualifies like any other trade. What some brokers exclude is a near-simultaneous buy and sell on the same instrument that nets out to almost no real exposure. If hedging is part of your approach, read forex hedging and rebate eligibility. XMTrading allows hedging within one account but not across two accounts.

Reversed commissions and demo accounts

Cashback depends on the broker actually paying the commission. If a broker reverses a commission, the related cashback is reversed with it. Demo accounts never generate real commission, so they earn nothing (see demo vs live accounts and forex cashback).

A sobering example (hypothetical numbers)

Cashback is easy to over-value when you look at it per lot, so here is a simple scenario. All figures below are example figures chosen for round numbers. They are not real rates and not a forecast.

Suppose a trader closes 20 standard lots in a month, and the cashback on their account is a hypothetical 4 USD per lot.

Example figure
Lots traded20
Trading result for the month (spread and commission already included)-400 USD
Cashback (20 lots x 4 USD)+80 USD
Net result for the month-320 USD

The trader lost on the month and still received 80 USD of cashback. That is exactly how the mechanism works. But the second half of the story matters just as much: the net result is still negative. Cashback made the loss 20% smaller in this example. It did not reverse it.

Now take the cost-side view. If a strategy has negative expectancy after costs, a rebate that offsets a fraction of those costs shrinks the loss per trade, not the sign of it. Our article on how cashback lowers your break-even win rate shows the formula, and it is a small shift, not a transformation. Cashback only makes the difference between a loss and a profit if the strategy was already close to break-even.

There is also a trap on the other side. Trading more lots just to collect more cashback increases the spread and commission you pay on every extra lot, and that usually costs more than the rebate returns. See chasing forex rebates vs trading edge and how overtrading increases your trading costs.

Finally, costs are charged on every trade whether it wins or loses, so they compound during a losing run. How that adds to a drawdown is shown in the cost of a losing streak. Cashback softens that cost drag a little. It is never a reason to keep trading a strategy that does not work.

How to check that your losing trades were counted

  1. Export your trade history from your broker's platform or portal and list the closed trades and their lot sizes for the period.
  2. Remove any trades you know fall under an exclusion (for example, shorter than the broker's minimum holding time).
  3. Compare the remaining lots with the cashback credited against your account in your CB-Dogs member area.
  4. If a gap remains, contact support with the account number and the period, and list the trades you think are missing.

Remember that cashback arrives after the broker pays CB-Dogs, so a trade closed this week will not appear immediately. See when is forex cashback paid for the timeline.

Frequently asked questions

Yes. Forex rebates are based on closed lot volume, not profit or loss, so a losing trade earns the same per-lot cashback as a winning one of the same size, provided the broker counts that trade for IB commission.

Next steps

Estimate cashback for your own volume with the cashback calculator, then compare accounts on the XM broker page or the Exness broker page. When you are ready, register with CB-Dogs before opening or linking your broker account, so your trading is tracked from the first lot.

Risk warning: forex and CFD trading carries a high risk of losing money. Cashback does not offset trading losses. Nothing here is investment advice.

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